From Rock Bottom to Quantum Transformation Debra and Brandon Yager—founders of Yager Training—share a raw, unfiltered origin story that cuts straight through spiritual fluff and business BS. From addiction, sex work, and self-destruction to conscious selling, language mastery, and quantum transformation, this episode exposes how the words you use determine the life you live. Debra’s 16-year spiral wasn’t random. It was patterned—reinforced by the labels she used and the beliefs she repeated. Meeting Brandon at an NLP training in Las Vegas in 2013 became the inflection point that turned pain into purpose and trauma into a scalable mission.